How did you get started in your Quest to create Cerno Group?
I started Cerno seventeen years ago with two of my best friends from childhood, Daniel Wacholder and Nick Sheridan. Looking back, it really started long before that, when we were kids just going on adventures and building things. One of the many beautiful parts of our childhood growing up in Laguna Beach is that we were surrounded by inspiring artists, builders, and entrepreneurs. Seeing others make a career in the creative space gave us confidence that we could do it too.
What keeps you coming back every day?
It's fun! I get to work with my best friends and an incredible team building products that we're proud to make. It's that simple, and that's why we love what we do.
Where do you go for creative inspiration (materials, shapes, designs, words)?
There's no single formula I can use to inspire creativity, but for me, it's a combination of both creative fasting and consumption. Somewhere in between the two is where a lot of my creativity usually happens. After a trip that was very design-heavy, like design week in New York, I need time to digest and reflect on all that I saw before I put pen to paper with new ideas. Other times it happens in a flash. And I am recording a voice memo right when I get out of the water after a surf with a new idea. We are all products of the culture we grew up in. Our surf, art, music, and coastal Californian roots run deep and definitely inspire a lot of what we create.
When creating something new, how do you know when it's ready to go? - Essentially ( how do you know when to stop refining and consider it finished?)
Cerno means to resolve in Latin. That is the test we use. Does the product feel fully resolved? When it does, we are ready to share it with the world.
Who do you admire most?
I admire people who follow their moral compass in life and business. The allure of compromising values to make more money or at the expense of someone else’s well-being will always be there. I admire people who let respect for others and themselves guide them.
What does success look like to you?
Success feels good when you work hard for something you are passionate about, and it becomes a viable business, but it’s also important to know when to pump the brakes and enjoy life outside of work. Being able to enjoy what you do and life outside of work sounds cliché, but it’s so important. Right now, being able to spend a lot of time with my boys, my wife, my family, and my friends feels like success.
Love at first sight?
Hmm, fascination and curiosity at first sight for sure. For me, love typically comes with time.
What rituals or habits ground you?
Surfing, exercise, meditation, and real connection with people. Life becomes busy and noisy, and I need to quiet the noise to be grounded.
Album you always go back to?
Paul Simon, Graceland. Bob Dylan, Desire. Bob Marley, Uprising
Favorite time of day?
Depends on the day, but I am more of a morning person.
What tools do you use most?
Pen, I scribble a lot of notes in my notebook. When I revisit them, often that is where new ideas start to take shape.
What do you do that is still analog?
Haha, good question, not enough. Play acoustic guitar, surf, and use a Moleskine notebook every day.
If you could have dinner with anyone, who would it be?
My family. And my grandparents, whom I never got to ask about their crazy life experiences.
What do you crave most at the end of the day?
It depends on what I did that day, but typically it's my bed.
Datsun 620 or VW 1987 Bus or Porsche 911?
Ooh, I am pretty sure that in 1987 the VW Bus had the Vanagon Syncro , which I love, but I am still going with an older 911, such a beautiful design and utility.
Last book you read?
I am about to finish a 700+ page novel that my dad, Howard Englander, wrote, “Bar Stools Full and Empty”. It’s really good. Proud of him.
How do you drink your coffee?
Black.
Bret Englander
Quest Insights
Cerno Group has earned a reputation for modern lighting that balances craftsmanship, innovation, and timeless design. During my visit to their workshop, I was struck not only by the beauty and precision of the pieces they create, but by the collaborative foundation that drives their work. Every person on the team takes ownership of their role, contributing their expertise and care to the process. That shared sense of responsibility creates an inspiring environment where creativity, craftsmanship, and connection come together. Co-founder Bret Englander shares the daily routines and life philosophy behind growing a company with friends and cultivating an exceptional team.
Interview by Leah Pakpour
























